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Superman/Batman Vol. 2: Supergirl written by Jeph Loeb Studio : DC Comics by DC Comics Release Date : 2005-09-12 Publisher : DC Comics Released : 2005-09-12 Availability : Usually ships in 1-2 business days Number of Items : 1 EAN : 9781401202507 Avg. Customer Rating: (based on 40 reviews)
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Batman has discovered something strange on the bottom of Gotham Bay which leads him to a mysterious and powerful teenaged girl whos bent on destroying Gotham City! Whats her connection to Superman? Why does Wonder Woman want to hide her from the outside world? Will Darkseid succeed in recruiting her into doing his bidding? This volume also includes an introduction by Loeb as well as a Kryptonian language translation key! |
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The women are drawn way too skinny Go Read Something Else! |
I think enough people have written on the story and beautiful artwork in this collection which is thankfully more realistic or adult looking than the juvenile artwork in the first batman superman (yes i give batman first billing, it's a personal choice). I'm a guy who just started reading comics after seeing the dark knight (which lead me to read my first graphic novel jeph loeb's The Long Halloween which is a classic in all ways). Despite the subpar writing loeb has passed out for this, which is better than most but still disapointing after long halloween as an introduction, i really have to say that the artists depiction of women in this supergirl book is really just mindboggling and disturbing. Turner draws his women with almost no meat on them, supergirl and wonder woman look like they are starving.
I find it very disturbing to see them depicted in such a small figure especially when wonder woman is meant to be a full amazon. At least when women in comics are vuluptuous they can still be strong and look like healthy grown women and it can be argued that it is a fair trade for men always being drawn with full muscles. Here the women still seem to have the same size chests but it looks like their sucked in mid sections cannot support the load. At least strong/full women look healthy these sticks look like they need a sandwich and for a girl to try and attain this physique without being born thin would require a constant finger down her throat. I don't mind women in comics being beautifully drawn but reading this i don't know how a guy can feel like anything but a perve with unrealistic unfair and unhealthy views of women. I like a full healthy women that i can wrap my arms around without feeling i'm going to break. I cannot suggest this item for anyone who doesn't want to feel like a comic book geek wishing for fantasized women in their books who represent nothing but sex slaves. If girls saw this on my shelf i would be worried about what they'd think of me, at least a full grown wonder woman i can relate to but here she is depicted with the body of a twelve year old girl but with inhuman implants (their necks are so petit how can they hold their heads up and their legs and arms don't have enough meat to go against darkseid or superman). They gave them the bodies of olympic cyclists which is a sad exchange for the amazon that wonder woman was meant to be (she should be at least as tall as superman) instead she looks more suitable to be cycling ten k than fighting doomsday reproductions, just sad.
Granted in this book Kara/supergirl is only a teen and should be smaller but she is still so damn unproportioned clearly as the artist had other things on his mind than what is reality or even stylized reality. If we are supposed to believe kara is a young teen here it is a sad comment that they would degrade a character they claim to have loved enough to bring back (this book is supergirls return after being taken out of continuity in infinite crisis) by having her wear a thong in one scene out on the town hiked up so high it looks like suspenders and shirts that barely contain her breasts. This is unrealistic boys and that's not what i want, (how could someone suposedly as mild mannered or boy scoutish depending on clark or superman let his cousin walk around like that?! If i saw my sister or cousins dressed like that i'd be sick and disheartened), their are always liberties but they must be traded off, wonder woman can be full and endowed but must be strong and firm at the same time not turned into eyecandy for readers without social lives.
For the love of comics, this is the kind of art that degrades all comics and comic readers as well as making it seem impossible for normal people to read comics without being a creep in his parents basement. This is an insult to proper comics/graphic novels like The Long Halloween, Hush, and Dark Victory. Matt Wagners Trinity is also more enjoyable and more well drawn with a pair up of Bats Sup and Wonder Woman drawn properly. I can't recommend this 'Batman Superman: Supergirl' to normal people despite the cool story set ups that make no logical sense, though cool to watch playout. I just can't recommend it, my 3 stars are for the few cool scenes and the other artwork is good but is overshadowed by the sad depictions Wonder woman and supergirl who should've been better respected. I need to be able to appreciate the story and depictions of characters.
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If you nerds that accept this perverse artwork want to see a real example of women appropriately portrayed in comics with hightened reality that is acceptable go read Catwoman: When in Rome also by Jeph Loeb and a far better story aswell. If it's truly just unrealistically proportioned women with no depth or relatability you want to look at go buy a playboy. I'd rather see relatable women with meat on their bones in my novels. |
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One of the Best Superman/Batman stories I have ever read. |
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This is my favourite Graphic Novel. From the artwork, to the dialog, to the monologue, it's excellent in every way. While "Public Enemies" gives us a story packed with action on a grand scale, "Supergirl" delves into the thought processes and interactions between Superman, Batman, and this new girl, Kara. From Superman's need to protect, to Batman's unwillingness to trust, this story has my favourite portrayals of the Man of Steel and Dark Knight. |
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A tribute to Michael Turner |
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It's difficult to read this story now without a tinge of melancholy in light of the recent heartbreaking and tragic passing of Michael Turner. The entire comic industry, along with his family and friends, has lost a remarkable talent and, by all accounts, a great guy also. He didn't do many complete stories outside of his own projects, which makes this rare assemblage of impressive illustrations all the more cherishable. This trade is one of the very few that I occasionally peruse strictly for his beautiful artwork alone. From his fearsome Batman to his gorgeous Wonder Woman, his amazing ability is strikingly evident in every panel. Not to be slighted, Jeph Loeb's writing talent is also quite evident in this tale that is easily the best of the four that he worked on for this title. His trademark dueling internal monologues are showcased, as is the return of Supergirl. This time around, Superman and Batman are joined by Wonder Woman and Big Barda on a perilous mission to Apokolips to rescue Supergirl from the clutches of that dastardly despot Darkseid, highlighted by a titanic physical battle and also one of high stakes poker between Batman and Darkseid. The sole flaw is that the story should have ended about thirty pages sooner upon their return to Earth, since the closing pages appear more like an epilogue whose primary purpose was to set the stage for the introduction of Kara to the rest of the DCU, and painfully cheesy it was at that. Nevertheless, still a very solid story with stunning art, the likes of which, sadly, we will never see again. Michael, you will be missed. |
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Laughably bad |
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Jeph Loeb is known for two things in the world of comics, creating amazing stories that become instant classics and creating unreadable dribble. This stories falls into the latter category, and being backed up on art by Michael Turner who apparently has never seen a human body doesn't help matters. Save yourself some money and skip to Superman/Batman Volume 3. |
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Nice read |
I came in late for much of the comics and their first printings so getting this little trade paperback was lovely. I enjoyed the art and the story (though I stopped reading super-girl long ago because quality went down hill).
I'd recommend this paperback however. |
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